09 Jun 8:17 PM
| Listerine - Win 1 of 3 trips to Spain to watch Neymar Jr play! (Purchase Required - Excludes TAS Residents)
Glad my 25 word or less game is still good. Just missed the big trip, but got runner up prize a football Jersey worth $100.
12 Jun 10:44 AM
12 Jun 1:10 PM
That was close, nice one
12 Jun 2:31 PM
09 Jun 6:04 PM
The Living Room has this competition on tonighthttps://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/the-living-room/competitions/shop-a-docket-instant-winhttps://www.shopadocket.com.au/competitions/the-living-room?utm_source=TLR_eDM_0505Can anyone post the code word if possible, it airs at 7:30 PM on ten. Thank you very much
09 Jun 9:12 PM
I was actually able to watch this time. The codeword was OCEANGood luck guys.
06 Jun 12:07 AM
@admin Regarding the guessing game. I think someone's made a change to the guessing game where you can now accidentally enter a duplicate guess within the week :(. I'm fairly sure previously it used to warn if a duplicate guess was entered. Doh!
06 Jun 11:38 PM
@Brookemaree93 lol. You can only hope. If I'm lucky I've entered your lucky number on the same day at 12:00 am and 1 second . :)They haven't changed it to a "fairer" system where one entry is selected from random from all entries that picked the number?
06 Jun 11:52 PM
@gaseja Interesting, so getting this right on Sunday you attempted to enter a number which gave you the notification it there was a duplicate guess? That sounds highly irregular I haven't come across that "feature". Did you try and reenter the same number with success?The only other possible cause for allowing my duplicate number there might of been a space before the number. I copied and pasted the numbers from last week. If that was the case it may be doing a text comparison instead of a numeric comparison.
07 Jun 11:25 AM
@Lemond I typed it in twice as I didn't believe it because I only had to cross check 2-3 numbers. I gave up and typed in another number.
01 Jun 10:57 PM
Hi,Just wondering which icon is the one to use for arranging a subscription to the newsletter. Is it via the Chat facility? In the My Account section there is what seems to be a link to newsletter subscriptions but this gave me a sad to see you go message.Regards
16 Jun 7:12 AM
@admin We don't need another email,We don't need another way to your home.All we want is relief for irritable email syndrome!Regarding Newsletter Points - Random newsletters during the month will have a leaderboard link to earn you X number of pointsWell I guess it's no surprise few actually read the emails even if they managed to find them. Be better off sending the information via the new messaging facility or making it available via the site. Let me get this straight. You want to encourage members to go their emails, find it and then link back to the site. All I saying I know where I can find this site 99.9% of the time. :)
17 Jun 10:46 PM
@Lemond I am treating the emails from competitions.com.au as newsletters.
18 Jun 10:09 AM
@Donek Thanks finally found emails that look like your posted image which are "news letters"It might help if they actually put that in the subject "News Letter"I was wondering where the red highlighted "FEATURED COMPETITIONS" originated from. For the site's competition page it's highlighted in black. It appears news letters are aiming to highlight featured comps which are already displayed on the site which was confusing.Still.. my feedback why the hell encouraging members to check for a random email which maybe buried in the haystack of emails/spam. I hope this random x points from news letters is referring to just required to click on the competition postings as usual. It's not well explained in the new leader board rules. If it's generated by clicking on links in the email its most likely going to be a world of pain and another potential source of issues. Is there or will there be a new section in the your points for the month to show this?The ultimate aim is to visit the site and if the information is "important" enough it should be to able to complete the "task" via the site. They could utilise the new messaging feature for newsletters if can't easily display them on the site. Or provide a new menu option for newsletters. At least more likely to find this "news letter". .Give me Big Red Button please. lmao
01 Jun 5:39 PM
$100 instant win Coles gift card thanks to Mortgage Choice. So thankful and it will come in very handy.Link below if you want to enter, I do get extra entries if you use the link below or just delete the bit after .au not to give extra entries.http://25thbirthday.mortgagechoice.com.au/?utm_campaign=Mortgage-Choice-25th-Birthday&utm_source=referral&utm_medium=ref_app_fb&utm_content=ref_id%3A4084221%7Cref_name%3ARowan#/app/3580/page/10383
03 Jun 2:12 PM
Thanks mate @surferboy83
03 Jun 8:39 PM
Nice win, I and a few of my friends used your link,cheers and great luck be with you :)
03 Jun 9:46 PM
Cheers mate, good luck to you and your friends too :) @Trevsta
01 Jun 1:45 PM
Hi All,We've made some changes to the leaderboard today. Key Points- No more Birthday Points - Prizes will be awarded in CompBux- You will be able to earn points via the newsletter, so be sure you're subscribed, if not, contact us via the icon below.Guessing Game will also be transitioning to CompBux next week.What this means is that you will be able to just enter your PayPal email address to redeem CompBux to PayPal cash, at the moment this is in the Survey Section, it will be to moved to a more obvious place this month.At first we will run this manually on our end, then it will be automated and instantaneous!We will introduce new ways to earn CompBux, such as entering comps or earning cash back on your purchases, so you will not be forced to do Surveys, although we are in talks to get more surveys paying more CompBux.Admin
02 Jun 7:27 AM
Sounds pretty confusing!
02 Jun 10:48 AM
Yip I agree@Trevsta
02 Jun 10:49 AM
I don't have PayPal!!!!
31 May 4:24 PM
Tips & Tricks
Hi Compers!Are you swarmed with emails and newsletters because of comping? Here's how to manage it:http://blog.competitions.com.au/tips/inbox-zero-and-how-to-achieve-it/Thanks!Nicole
29 May 8:17 PM
So how is that fare if I have received 40 less points than others?
31 May 10:14 PM
Hmm one thing noticing is lack of lower scores expected around the 135-150 range. Struggling to find many, I think should expect a handful at least. That will have to check on average roughly how many scores would expect in that range. Possible due to the multiple fixes have pushed those active members off the leader board which usually show up. Might be hinting the distribution might be skewed towards the higher end this month caused by abnormalities with the random daily points. Might also explain why top scores are a touch on the high side.
01 Jun 9:21 AM
Can u please explain all that one more time lol
01 Jun 3:11 PM
@Brookemaree93 lmao. Well the odds of any two members winning in a month is 1 which was the what @ouzocoke overlooked. Argh worse thing knowing there're so many June birthday's about. I've got Buckley's chance this month. :(Note for next year note there didn't appear to be many if any May birthdays for the active members.
28 May 5:59 PM
I just dont get it, I enter the guessing comp every day and also every competition everyday and am always way behind the leaders, so I do not know what I am not doing. At present 41 points behind the leader. ????????
29 May 1:16 AM
The critical factors that determined the winners are: *The total amount of random daily points you've accumulated throughout the month. (1-10 points per day) *Also whether it's a members birthday month. +25 bonus pointsNote:An additional 25 birthday bonus are awarded at then end of the month. (Despite stating on the leader board page: 25 points - Rewarded on your birthday (just before mid-night AEST). It's was changed a few months ago to be rewarded right at the end of the month around 11:30pm AEST)Due to the late addition of the birthday bonus the leader board may change right at end of the month. Good chance this month a couple of the current leaders, "might/likely" just end high enough to be unaffected if any birthday members about. To have a genuine chance :Visit the home page every day to obtain your random daily pointsDo the guessing game every day to obtain it's bonus View all the competitions that were posted within the current month before they expire. Also for the new comps posted not expired in the current month viewed before the end of month to count. It appears that you understand all that from logging each day etc. Comparing your score to the leaders.The leaders have 192 daily random points and you 152. Also you've currently view one less competition that was posted this month making it total or 41 points behind the leaders. So it all adds up no missed points from any of the guessing game issues this month. You haven't been crossing your fingers and toes hard enough for the "lucky" daily "random" points. :)
26 May 10:00 PM
1 of 3 winners in the Bundaberg BREWtastic promotion. Pre-dinner drinks will be served at 5 pm. Please being a plate! ;)
30 May 1:11 PM
Another one for the trophy room Tox!!
01 Jun 4:54 PM
03 Jun 8:31 AM
23 May 5:30 PM
Leaderboard Update:There have been 23 games played this month, the server has gone down twice and it is almost impossible to know if you were affected or not. Those with 22 games played have received 50 points 'Guessing Game Fix 1' with the assumption they were affected.Those with less than 22 games placed have received 100 points 'Guessing Game Fix 2' with the assumption they were all affected.Any issues, feel free to use the little icon on the bottom right of your screen to chat with us.Thanks
25 May 8:40 PM
@Lemond Not really sure about being a favourite member! Just did my guessing game later that day after they had done fix 2 and must have thought i missed out.Have been told they will do another fix and look into this as I have had a look and some other people have also got 50 extra points too.
25 May 11:11 PM
Tough month this month
26 May 7:10 PM
Difficult for @admin @Zedmin when issues like this arise....and ... issues will arise. It is, of course, an imperfect system. It places them in a difficult position. To @admin, thank you for reconciling points for this month. It demonstrates that you are truly promoting a level playing field. Thanks. :)
23 May 3:10 PM
I like reading that people win things on here. I enter heaps then don't win so your wins spur me on to keep going.
23 May 1:19 PM
Wow, my profile pic has changed without my knowledge , it's a nice bike, although I ride a Harley :) Maybe my luck will change too!! Good Luck to everyone!!!
23 May 1:21 PM
Gold!! Good luck mate
24 May 4:11 PM
22 May 6:02 PM
@adminHI... I'm missing daily points.. I have sent a message and no one replied nor adjested the points .. thanx advance
19 May 3:45 PM
Happy Friday Everyone! Here's the latest form the Competitions.com.au blog: COMPETITION KARMA AND HOW TO EARN IT....http://blog.competitions.com.au/tips/good-competition-karma-and-how-you-can-earn-it/Hope you enjoy!Hope you all have a winning weekend!Nicole
20 May 9:07 AM
Good point to say thank you :) I'm always very thankful for the amazing prizes I win.
23 May 5:32 PM
I am such a BIG believer in karma. I read online about people complaining about winners cheating and think 'Karma will get them' and move on. Why sweat the small stuff.
19 May 12:15 PM
Thank you for the heavy duty torch, will come in very handy :)
21 May 10:27 AM
Thanks all :)
22 May 6:33 PM
Congratulations, nice prize :)
23 May 3:20 AM
Thank you :) @Brookemaree93
18 May 5:15 AM
Weird just caught a short period where the site appeared down. On top of that it appears it's only showing only 2 competitions for me posted today. From the looks of things that's wasn't the case for some members.
19 May 9:38 PM
@spyglass well I just know from my current total daily points if got a realistic chance. The average is 5.5 points per day ie. for 31 days an average score is 171.For top 3 looking around 192ish-206+. So 206/31*19 = 126 if around 120+ at this stage in with a realistic chance. :) Easiest way to look at it how many points you're currently above average. 19*5.5 days is 105 and require on average about +25 before getting too excited. Allowing for a couple of birthdays looking at requiring 171+25 = 196+ plus. If it's your birthday month almost a formality. Let me see your on 127 +22 above average currently, so good chance of top 3. Still need slightly above average till end of the month. The downside you're overdue for bad week after about 6 weeks punching consistently above average scores. lmaoMaybe with all the current mess the top score might end up a touch lower this month. i.e. members not realizing didn't get a bonus due.Depending how many birthdays about be good news for them. i.e. might still sneak in top 3 with close to average to touch below.Argh I'm out of luck need around 90 points from 120 available. It's probably not going happen this month.
20 May 12:00 AM
test post see what the time comes up
20 May 12:03 AM
The "good news" for May 20th all seems fine.
17 May 8:03 PM
When is Catrina Murray accepting new members for Competition Winners AustraliaI been trying to join for the last two months.
16 May 12:02 PM
One QS sheet set delivered today, courtesy of Take 5 magazine. Yay! Very much appreciated. :)
17 May 6:53 PM
18 May 9:42 AM
lovely, well done
18 May 10:44 AM
Congratulations!!! You've been doing well :)
11 May 1:38 PM
A book through Money Magazine - Blueprint to Wealth - an omen perhaps?
12 May 10:45 AM
12 May 5:23 PM
Nice Jen :)
12 May 7:50 PM
Very positive, congratulations :)
11 May 1:16 AM
I'm annoyed at a certain person who for nearly every competition they enter they write my son had leukaemia and past away.No disrespect to her. But I hate to use that to win a competition. My grandmother past away and I had Uni exams during that week. I could have been exempt but I don't think my grandmother would be proud if I did that.
18 May 10:48 AM
I agree with you with this. Amount of times I enter a Facebook competition and see all these sob stories annoys me too. I understand it's a tough time for them but at the same time we all experience different types of grief from losing a love one, losing a job, given bad news etc but we don't use that to win a prize through sympathy. Unfortunately bad times are part of life...
21 May 1:55 PM
I don't enter those sorts of competitions but it would be interesting to see if the same person has won something with the same story on more than one occasion (and also how long ago the unfortunate event would have occurred - assuming they are being truthful as well)
22 May 8:52 PM
My husband had cancer and I've only once used it as a comp answer. It was a story of my struggle with cleaning the bathroom on account of his hair falling out EVERYWHERE. I didn't win.
10 May 10:09 PM
Conversations feature now active on the website, I see. Check out the new icon! Another communication means with our admin. Yay. Like private messenging, akin to Facebook Messenger. Timely, and very welcomed. Thank you, @admin and @zedmin.
11 May 12:03 PM
Yeh, good call!!
10 May 4:11 PM
| Android Authority - Win a Samsung Galaxy S8!
i hoe i win
11 May 7:27 PM
06 May 10:16 AM
For anyone entering the Deniliquin trip posted today flight are ex Brisbane, just in case you miss it in the T&C's. Hope you have a lucky weekend :)
04 May 6:34 PM
Any interested in the family Fued competition
04 May 9:37 PM
May, the Fourth, be with you, don't you mean, pizzaman? ;)
12 May 10:12 AM
Anyone seen a winner for this competition
04 May 1:23 AM
Hi there was a glitch with the servers yesterday, they had to be restarted and the time didn't update correctly.. Seems only a handful were affected. Please post below so we can investigate and rectify.
18 May 2:15 PM
@admin hmm looks like time stamps are back to UTC i.e. 10 hours behind. So... place bets another morning of missed guessing game points anyone logging guesses before 10am. Probably also when the random daily points will be available for May 19th.
20 May 11:17 PM
Mmm, same here, missed more guessing game bonus points, so short 2 lots of guessing game bonus points now :-(
21 May 6:16 AM
Same for me too I have missed 2 lots of guessing game bonus points
03 May 11:00 PM
@admin @Zedmin, I didn't receive random daily points and guessing game points for this morning. Please remedy all affected members' accounts, from when the issue arose - yesterday - and continuing this morning at least. Thank you.
06 May 10:46 AM
Still no points reconciliation.... :(
06 May 7:24 PM
@toxicgherkin Patience. If they're rectifying the guessing game issue similar to previous months, it appears they will obtain a list of members affected and get around to adding a patch to guessing game bonus. Hopefully it's done ASAP and enough time before the end of the month so if anyone gets overlooked and ask for more.
06 May 7:28 PM
@toxicgherkin Overall they need a way to avoid this inconsistency between guesses registered and it's bonus points. "Hints" that using a calculated field which makes checking and reconstructing the bonus points difficult.
03 May 10:27 PM
@adminIn case members aren't aware it doesn't appear the random daily points are being generated and added to the total for today. Placing bets it should be ok after 10:00 am i.e. midnight UTC. Try visiting the home page after 10:00 am to obtain the random daily points. X fingers. The guessing game seems to be fine for today. @Adim ps I didn't get yesterdays bonus points for completing the guessing game
03 May 10:38 PM
@wolverine See the previous post/replies. I've made it perfectly clear there are there are many members effected. Other members could do a quick post in the reply to help @admin identify those concerned. :)
03 May 10:14 AM
| Fashion Journal - Win 1 of 3 pairs of Dr. Martens Original 1461 shoes!
Haven't posted in a while, but have had a pretty great week. Sunday I won a new GHD hair straightener and today I won a new pair of $250 Doc Martin shoes and a $1000 red balloon voucher. Feeling pretty happy right now.Hope you all are getting some luck come your way
03 May 4:47 PM
Congrats, hope the wins keep rolling in :)
03 May 7:39 PM
04 May 4:38 AM
02 May 10:35 PM
My daughter won a hair and makeup makeover for me for Mothers Day. Does that count? Of course it does, she is learning!
03 May 12:12 AM
Sure does, sounds wonderful! Congratulations!
03 May 2:58 AM
Congrats and enjoy :)
03 May 6:00 AM
Wonderful news, jennye. Congratulations!
02 May 9:05 PM
Feedback / Suggestions
Logged in today and it says no new competitions and that I have already guessed today!Looks like today hasn't been reset?Anyone else with the same problem?
03 May 2:16 AM
Still waiting for my guessing game points @admin
03 May 3:50 AM
03 May 9:56 AM
@admin Hope aware you're going to busy patching up a whole heap of member's bonus scores for today's guessing game.
02 May 2:10 PM
@admin Is there a bit of lag when midnight occurs now? Waiting on the guessing game and also looks like the daily points aren't generating and/or adding to the total. 12:20am.I'm guessing not the only one as the leader board hasn't changed for the midnight crew :)
02 May 10:08 PM
@Lemond, yes a problem
03 May 7:49 AM
@fourleaf Roger. We copy you're venting. Along with a few other members!
03 May 3:05 PM
@Admin The current state is guessing game and bonus for it working at midnight. The daily random points generation and addition to total however isn't been performed.May 4th 1am AEST
01 May 4:00 AM
@Lemond Congratulations mate, you finally cracked it!! Now the guessing game eludes you!! Good Luck Alwayz!!
01 May 8:58 PM
02 May 11:02 AM
Thanks everyone. Good luck to the May birthdays. May there be not too many of them . :)
04 May 9:09 PM
30 Apr 5:36 PM
Really disappointed. I bought 3 bottles of prosecco and was pleased to read the tag on the bottle advising of a chance to win a gourmet trip. Not so pleased to find I needed to keep my receipt to enable me to enter (I don not think I even received it. As well, I also see I need the last 5 digits of the barcode.You do not see the terms and conditions until after you open the tag - who keeps this type of information let alone the bottle for the barcode - you drink the prosecco and the bottle goes in the bin.
01 May 11:06 AM
@gpbristow, I get a little sad on missing out on a good comp too!. it's pretty standard on purchase comps to keep receipts, barcode/ whole product especially with the big ones and keep the receipt for three months after in case of a second chance draw. For me, rule 'numero uno' is always to read the t&cs first to find out what they want you to keep. Sometimes entry needs a photo upload of the receipt but if you are lucky enough to win the major prize generally they will want the original as well because of the value of the prize. It all helps making sure it's a genuine entry and keeps cheats at bay. At the end of last year three major companies required winners to mail in ALL receipts entered in their comp. Some wanted original barcodes as well! A couple of years ago, I even had to get a signed statement from a JP for a second prize. Agree with @Lemond and @bj74, I've never had to mail them in but I've never won a major, major holiday yet either! Why take the risk, I'd hate to miss out because I didn't keep the original receipt as per the t&cs. Here's hoping for everyone lol! :) There's a couple of articles on entering purchase comps in the blog from memory. Enjoy and good luck with comping :)
01 May 11:12 AM
Lol, I keep mine for 2 years @gaseja
01 May 7:38 PM
@fourleaf Wise words to file away the physical receipts. I still think at least a photo of the receipt should be enough proof of purchase. If mailing them in they could get lost or damaged. At worse a photo acts as a backup.For bar codes I kept a big bin of empty dairy milk bottles for their competition for ages. Was to lazy to take the bar codes off.
28 Apr 11:49 PM
Hi : I have problems to find a Le Louvre competition form. Any suggestions? Thank you. Have lovely weekend .
29 Apr 7:48 AM
http://lp.megaphonemarketing.com.au/lelouvrecomp?kid=F35RV Here's the referral link I got when I entered :) good luck
01 May 10:37 AM
I would only enter this one if I lived in Victoria. I see you need to collect the prize within 3 months.
28 Apr 3:29 PM
| Jack London - Win a 'Jack London' wardrobe, valued at over $1,400!
I had a phone call yesterday with the good news. I get a leather jacket, black jeans, men's suit and doc martens shoes. So happy and greatful for this amazing prize. Thank you Jack London.
30 Apr 8:46 PM
Great win! Well done
01 May 4:02 AM
Nice win Smalot11
01 May 9:01 PM
Cheers all :)
28 Apr 12:06 AM
@admin Is something up with the guessing game this "morning". 12:11 am and not allowing me to enter my daily guesses. Appears I can't register my daily guess and as a result not getting the 50 bonus points.
28 Apr 3:30 PM
Good to hear it's all working :)
28 Apr 7:03 PM
@Smalot11 Argh had me worried for a while. I seemed to have "slight" delay before could register today's guessing game. Thought might of been caused by refreshing the browser around right on midnight to do the guessing game.I have noticed one issue in previous months when doing the guessing game on the first of the month and missing the double guess. I seemed to get caught just after they cleared the previous month scores before working out if I had double guesses or not. Then was fine for the rest of the month. Lesson is not don't try doing the guessing game on the first of the month for least a few minutes after midnight AEDT. If showing incorrect number of guesses come back a few minutes later and refresh. i.e. assuming you know if ended up 4-50th previous month and got double guesses. Probably what should be done is disable the guessing game while any maintenance is being conducted. Bonus if they added a message stating down for maintenance would also be nice. :)
29 Apr 7:38 AM
I'm playing the guessing game mid morning now since day light saving is finished and I have to wait to midnight instead of 11pm in Qld. :)
27 Apr 3:32 PM
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28 Apr 10:27 AM
@admin @Zedmin are you permitting advertising in this format here, in the Forum? I'd like to know whether members report this as spam, or not, or whether the competition should be promoted via the requisite channel. Please advise.
19 Apr 2:32 PM
How many 1 points can you get in a week? I've now had 6 over the last 7 days!!!
19 Apr 6:20 PM
@Lemond only 2 days of 10 I think and no exaggeration.Not my birthday month unfortunately
25 Apr 10:41 AM
@Winner1 I don't think the points system is working properly either.
25 Apr 6:10 PM
@SunnyLife Any hints why you say that?@Winner1 A better question is what would be the odds for a similar scenario?You can use combination probability have fun. I'm preoccupied :) Eg Assuming 100 active members what be the odds within a year for a similar scenario occurring. i.e. For any given number occurring 6 times within 7 days. End up with 90 possible combinations out of a total (10^7). For a year hmm 358 seven day periods and 100 members 35800*70= 25060002506000/10000000 = 0.25 i.e. 25% chance occurring in a year or on average once in approximately every 4 yearsBe a rough starting point would need to check if used the correct methodology. Taking one members run of numbers for a week may hint at an issue it's stretching it. You need to look a larger sample of random scores. I wouldn't expect your scenario to reoccur for a while. It's not impossible. EgThe odds of two consecutive days being the same number 10/100 , 3 days 10/1000 etc. So good chances at least one member out of 100 may get repeating numbers for the next 3 days. It's not to say there may be an issue, by just using a sample of a couple of members scores over one week doesn't demonstrate much apart from that combination is a possibility. One out of a possible 10 million combinations for each member in a week.
19 Apr 7:35 AM
Sort of ... Outback Spirit allocated my nominated community group, 1st Myrtleford Scout Group, a pack of BBQ sauce for our next Bunnings BBQ.This time we'll be raising funds to help more kids get the chance to go to Cuboree.
19 Apr 2:28 PM
Congrats :) Outback spirit are very generous. All the best for the bunnings BBQ
19 Apr 2:43 PM
20 Apr 7:28 AM
It is an ongoing weekly thing so if you have a group doing a BBQ just find the current post on Facebook and nominate them
18 Apr 12:02 PM
Hi Everyone!Here's 4 REASONS YOU'RE NOT WINNING AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT from the latest from Competitions.com.au :http://blog.competitions.com.au/tips/4-reasons-youre-not-winning-and-what-to-do-about-it/Happy Winning!Nicolehttp://facebook.com/nicolecappelleri
19 Apr 9:05 AM
5. More and more people are entering comps. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Plus with being advertised on media and Facebook, so much less of a chance. Everyone's in on the game.
19 Apr 4:46 PM
I'd like tips on 25 wol comps please
20 Apr 8:50 AM
@pizzaman yep people play the poor woe me answer to get sympathy. Does that really win the hearts of the judges? I think they'd think the same as you @pizzaman.
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